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 No.59938

Hey everyone.
I need to be real with you. Sharing copies of my fantasy stories without permission on places like Kemono isn't harmless: it's how I eat and pay for my grandma's cancer care. When people pirate my work, it takes money away from me and puts my whole family at risk. If you love my stories, please support me on Patreon: Jaydo Stories and tell friends where to get them instead of passing around pirated copies. I’m grateful for every read, every share that points people to the right place, and every bit of support, it changes lives. If you’ve downloaded a pirated copy, please delete it and help spread the word to keep my work, and my family alive. Thank you.

 No.59941

sorry to hear that

 No.59947

We are very sorry to hear this, Jaydo.

Where can we contribute to help you eat and take care of your grandmother? Patreon is taking almost all the money off the subscriptions, you would literally be earning more from hearsay and direct transfers than having a clearly fraudulent company profit off your back (Patreon, that is).

 No.59960

please look into financial assistance if you are in the united states, almost every single hospital in the country is legally registered as a non profit for tax purposes and is required to provide for/forgive medical expenses to keep this non profit status, anyone who makes less than 333% of the federal poverty guideline is eligible to have 100% of their medical debt forgiven. other than that, anyone that was going to pirate your work was never going to pay for it anyway, and denying access to it does not summon profit that would never have existed in the first place

 No.59961

To be fair, Kemono was never set up with the intention of importing users who engage in making written works. This is more of a side effect really. I assume most people who do this do so under the assumption that it wouldn't necessarily hurt if fantasy story stuff was done on the side, but I guess at least in this particular case, it does.

Yeah some people have debated over whether it's really necessary to import creators who do written works, but this certainly adds food for thought when it comes to that debate. I understand if some people do this if the written works are related to a certain franchise(s), but otherwise it really does seem unnecessary.

But don't take my word for it, I'm just an anon passing by. But I appreciate being enlightened on the subject.

 No.60000

>>59938
>When people pirate my work, it takes money away from me and puts my whole family at risk.
It really doesn't. That literally is not how that works. Especially not here. I can guarantee you have never and will never lose a single sale here. The people coming here to consume your content are not your customers, and they were never going to pay you anyway. You're not Stephen King, you clearly don't have millions of people looking to consume your content (if you did, you wouldn't be coming here to complain because your Patreon would be lucrative as fuck). The people coming here to get it for free aren't doing it as an alternative to paying you, they're doing it as an alternative to just not doing it at all. The people who take countermeasures to obfuscate their work are just making it harder for their paying customers just to shut out people who were never going to convert in the first place.

Also, a word to the wise:
>it's how I eat and pay for my grandma's cancer care
This is not okay. I guarantee you your grandma and the rest of your family are not okay with you using her illness to beg for money and guilt trip people on the internet. I've been there, and had I found out someone was using my condition to get people to give them money I'd have broken their fucking jaw.

 No.60007

sorry op, cant find your patreon to support

 No.60009

I saw the post yesterday and i almost replied but i was not going to be as polite as the guy who wrote the previous reply so i let It pass. You probably are not having a good time. Anyway, i want to add that while some writers here are not Stephen King they are not too bad and can eventually publish their work, all those guys get new customers thanks to kemono. It is easy to understand: if u like the story enough u would never be able to bear with the irregular updates on kemono so if u have money u'll pay. The ppl who don't like your story enough or are not willing or able to pay would never become your customers.
Yesterday i took a look at your content, fck that shit, that is not some writer content, just the same porn shit that plagues the internet (just looking at the titles maybe i am wrong, anyway i am not reading It).
Lastly, i completely agree that i would never go around begging, maybe the person u are trying to help agrees with u. I am certain that i would rather die than let my relatives beg for me.

 No.60010

Stephen King wouldn't use Paytreon.

You also don't have to be a popular writer to not use Paytreon. There are plenty of ways to make money but
>>60000 GET
has a lot of truth in that last part.

Don't rely on corpos and most importantly don't guilt-trip your audience over this and use it for monetary gain. You just destroyed your audience all over Google now if they have a relative or friend with a terminal illness, because yes, they will NOT be happy about you doing that and they will not want any of that money. That is the worst insult you could possibly do to them when they are already at the brink of death.

 No.60014

i just learned from this thread that people on this chan has sensible heart at least, also yeah, guilt tripping is bad, but we dont really know op's case

maybe a granma is all they had, because to be frank i don't really care with my extended family unless they care about me as much as they want me to care about them

 No.60016

>>60010
the Stephen King thing was more about audience. Mass market media piracy represents lost sales because there is a chunk of it from people who would otherwise be willing and able to pay. (It's a minority, but a significant one. It's nowhere near 1:1 though.) But those people just don't feature in the audience of someone with like 200 Patreon subscribers and 20 profile faves on kemono.

I can't find this person's actual Patreon (the OP name does not check out), but it was a useful strawman for me to get off my chest just how things like this are just a massive misunderstanding of how any of this works.

 No.60029

>>60016
You can find him in kemono/artist by searching jaydo. I think It was jaydo_stories or something like that. By the titles It looks like some porn stories, the gay kind. I think this has some market among women but good luck finding women here. 1/10? Probably less.

 No.60343

>>59938
First off, the people who would not pay for your stuff are NEVER going to pay for your stuff.

Second, I have paid for a few things due to finding stuff I liked via places like this. So think of it as 'free advertising'.

You aren't going to get more people paying for your stuff if this site disappears or people stop uploading your content. If anything, less people being able to check out your work means less people who are able and willing to send you money being able to do so.



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